Results, or nearly so!

Alright, so the past couple days I've been working on picking p and s arrival and polarity information to input into a focal mechanism inversion code that Andy has been wrestling with.  Late yesterday we succeeded in producing the first focal mechanism plot, and then soon after 5 more.  There are some minr bugs or kinks in the code that are still being worked on, but it looks like it's nearly ready to go.  After cleaning up the diagrams a bit we'll probably take a closer look at some of them to see what (if anything) can be determined from them.  It will probably also mean checking over my picks again to make sure I didn't do anything stupid ;)

It's been a pretty exciting time overall, but I have to admit that picking S-wave arrivals is a lot harder than P-wave arrivals.  Frequently you'll get a lot more noise from the P-wave coda mixed in with the beginning of the S, making it pretty difficult to tell where the S first starts to come in, especially with emergent arrivals.  Interestingly enough, I find that by unfocusing my eyes I tend to be able to spot patterns more quickly, since I'm looking at the entire waveform "at once."  I make sure afterwards that the pick is as close to the right place as I can get, but the  big picture view has been helpful a couple times in recognizing where an S-wave starts to emerge.  Anyone else here been working with S-wave arrival picking at all?

Sounds as if making picks is

Sounds as if making picks is both a bit of science and art at the same time. When I work with teachers and students with very little experience, they can frequently become frustrated with gray areas such as this. Their response can be "isn't this supposed to be science where answers are right or wrong?" Thoughts?

In seismology there is very

In seismology there is very little black and white, and much gray. You cannot put your hands on the "science," so, there is almost never a right or wrong. Much of what we see is interpretation based on someone's model.

I agree with this to some

I agree with this to some extent, in that there's a lot of grey area with little black and white. However I think that saying that you can't put your hands on this science might be going a little far. In part, I think that seismology as a science is still quite young, and every young science needs some time before it can truly be grasped. Heck, physics really didn't get that kind of boost until Einstein...and even now there are problems that can't be grasped in that field. I believe that as long as humans continue to strive to understand their natural world that no science will truly be out of grasp (except, perhaps, philosophy...but that's a COMPLETELY different subject). I would also say that not necessarily everything is based upon a model, I know that when going through and picks my arrivals I purposely blocked myself from looking at station numbers and what-not so as to unbias any solutions a bit more. Still, the picks can be tough and are usually dependent upon models, so I guess in that sense you've got a point.

I picked my s and p wave

I picked my s and p wave arrivals for the first two weeks. picking s wave arrivals is difficult, but becomes a lot easier when you get used to looking for them. I'm currently working on polarities so tha tI can make my focal mechanism plots. I didn't do it initially because dbloc apparently rewrites all of your assigned polarities. makes it for a lot longer process though...

Sounds very repetitive...

Sounds very repetitive...  Don't let it drive you crazy.  :)

Haven't you figured it out

Haven't you figured it out yet? I was already crazy, thus this is probably driving me more towards sanity...oh dear :(

Hahaha.  That actually made

Hahaha.  That actually made me giggle a bit.   Well, then good luck on your voyage towards sanity...  :-p

But, but...I don't WANT to

But, but...I don't WANT to be normal :( Oh well...

I am working on picking both

I am working on picking both P and S waves. So far I have located over 1800 local earthquakes from the Mexican segment of the Middle American Subduction Zone. If I understand what you mean by looking at the whole wave form, then you have the right idea as to the best way that I have found to see the arrival of the S-wave. I have found that it is easier to spot the change in wave frequency by crunching the waveform together, make a crude pick near the frequency change, and then zoom into the pick and make sure that it is in the right place.

What processing software are you using?

SAC, utilizing ppk for the

SAC, utilizing ppk for the picks and what-not. I don't tend to make a crude pick like you do, rather I'll use the x-x window zoom in SAC to zoom in on a large area within which it's obvious that the change occurs, and find that spot. Sounds like we're doing similar things though, so hopefully we're on target ;)